[Upasiva:]
Alone, Sakyan, & with nothing to rely on, I can't venture across the great flood. Tell me, All-around Eye, the support to rely on for crossing over this flood.[The Buddha:]
Mindfully focused on nothingness, [1] relying on 'There isn't,' you should cross over the flood. Abandoning sensual pleasures, abstaining from conversations, keep watch for the ending of craving, night & day.[Upasiva:]
One free from passion for all sensual pleasures relying on nothingness, letting go of all else, released in the highest emancipation of perception: Does he stay there unaffected?[The Buddha:]
One free from passion for all sensual pleasures relying on nothingness, letting go of all else, released in the highest emancipation of perception: He stays there unaffected.[Upasiva:]
If he stays there, O All-around Eye, unaffected for many years, right there would he be cooled & released? Would his consciousness be like that?[The Buddha:]
As a flame overthrown by the force of the wind goes to an end that cannot be classified, [2] so the sage free from naming activity goes to an end that cannot be classified.[Upasiva:]
He who has reached the end: Does he not exist, or is he for eternity free from dis-ease? Please, sage, declare this to me as this phenomenon has been known by you.[The Buddha:]
One who has reached the end has no criterion [3] by which anyone would say that — for him it doesn't exist. When all phenomena are done away with, [4] all means of speaking are done away with as well.